VTech report doesn't mention video games; PAC cries cover up

"I'll guarantee that the shooter played violent video games" - Jerry Tomcat

Yes, I will make up names from now on.

What a load.

I kinda wish the LaRouchies would hurry up and drink the Koolaid.

More like, "LaDouche" (hehe, yeah, I went there).

Also, kudos on the basic knowledge of English spelling rules concerning short and long vowel sounds depending on whether they're followed by two consonants or a consonant then a vowel. Or maybe I've just forgotten my "gramer" rules.

LaRouche should be paid even less attention than what Jack Thompson gets.

Wait, so his reasoning is; "since my followers brought up the connection three times during the panel they must not be lying!"

Double ewe tee eff?

I am more troubled by the simple fact that we waste time on "panels" and "reviews" on these things than the video game part.

What are we becoming...?

How could this possibly be a cover up? Every single person who knew the guy, from his room mates to his family all said video games did not interest him. Sure, most people his age are obsessed with games but this guy was WEIRD.

It simply proves people can just go 'nuts' without video games ever playing a part.

"I am more troubled by the simple fact that we waste time on "panels" and "reviews" on these things than the video game part.

What are we becoming...?"

Several things needed to be looked at with VTech tragedy to find a possible cause merely to confirm that there was nothing anyone could do to predict or profile other kills. Read the report (which I'm currently doing).

Besides, am I the only one amused that a report to be given to the President quotes the President on the second page? I can just imagine his reaction when reading that...

"Holy crap! I said that? I didn't mispronunciate no words neither! I'm good."

It's funny how the supposed liberal media hasn't made certain info on Cho widespread.



Cho, 23, of Centreville, whose family was religious and had sought help for him from a Woodbridge church, repeatedly made religious references. He said that he had been "crucified" and that, as with Jesus, his actions would set people free. He called himself a "martyr" who would "sacrifice" his life. He wrote that he would go down in history as the "Jesus Christ of the Weak and Defenseless." He thought his actions would inspire others to fight back and get even.
Source is
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/06/18/AR2007061801732.html?hpid=topnews

An article at http://scienceblogs.com/pharyngula/2007/06/jesus_made_him_do_it.php has comments with their sources blaming other stuff as causing Cho to go on a rampage. Turns out it was Jesus that caused the VA tech shootings.

Did you see the videotape they played like the day after the shootings? He mentioned all that stuff.

He just caught the crazy.

We should have a band on violent theology instead.

Any religious text in which your god smote anyone or anyone for being "wicked" counts as violent theology, and is not allowed. Buddha that'd be nice!

Young people who are alienated by their peers and constantly bullied and treated like dirt until they don't feel life is worth living going on suicidal shooting sprees...yeah, it must be video games that cause it.

Who cares what the guy played or watched or whatever? That sick monster was allowed to buy guns legally. Yes, he probably would have found an illegal way to get them but the fact that no one did a background check thoroughly enough to see that he should never have been allowed a pocket knife terrifies me. He was completely insane and evil and everyone saw it so why couldn't anyone stop him?

Oh - so this is the same douchebag who's running radio ads, here in Tennessee, calling for Al Gore to run for president.

Tennessee has already let it be know, we don't want him to be our president.

The LaRouche PAC are... well, let's not kid ourselves, they're a cult.

What any self-respecting blog, person, or being of relative sentience is doing even blinking an eye at these people is beyond me.

Can we now please get to the important question of when Spore is coming out?

The majority males that age that live in dorms will play video games, even if they don't own a system. Even if it turned out that he gamed a bit, it wouldn't prove anything. It would just give some BS coorelation proves causation argument for some asshat.

But when it turns out that he didn't game, at all, what happens? There aren't politicians and news anchors all over yelling that games obviously don't matter because of this instance. You see, the "debate" presented to the people is wholly onesided.

Also, look at how he referenced religion. If he had been referencing DOOM, can you imagine the public backlash? But religion is different. Religion is nothing but gooooood.

The truth of the matter is the kid was crazy. The main influences on what he did, imo:

1) Extensive media coverage of Columbine. He made a media package just for the news to get him out there and make him important for once.

2) Being ignored as a child, then picked on in High School. Not getting any pussy ever probably didn't help, either.

3) Religion, but only in the way he justifies and rationalizes his actions. Jesus didn't make him do it, but gave him a goofy excuse for why he could.

@Ryuukuro

"Who cares what the guy played or watched or whatever? That sick monster was allowed to buy guns legally. Yes, he probably would have found an illegal way to get them but the fact that no one did a background check thoroughly enough to see that he should never have been allowed a pocket knife terrifies me. He was completely insane and evil and everyone saw it so why couldn't anyone stop him?"

I personally love it when people think the simple removal of guns would be more than adequate to handle these rogue agents. After all, it's not like the Columbine Killers built, planted, and timed propane bombs in heavily crowded areas to maximize body count and ONLY entered the school after the bombs failed to go off. It's not like Timothy McVay filled his car with bullets and drove into the side of the building to do all that damage. Nope, nothing like that.

Look, here is the problem. Cho was sick. Cho got guns. Should Cho have been denied guns, Cho would have gotten illegal guns. Should Cho fail at that, Cho could acquire good old fashioned bombs or other weapons. A Suicide Bombing would not have been out of the profile for Cho, in fact, it fits a hell of a lot more than shooting people one by one.

Now your statement thinking somehow the removal of guns from the equation would have removed the violence is pure fantasy scapegoatism. Every bit as bad as trying to blame video games for this tragedy. Sometimes things skip by the system. Loopholes exist. Doesn't mean, on the few occassions a system slips up you should remove the system altogether. If your Windows PC ever blue screened, did you throw it out immediately?

And keep in mind, I'm not a big fan of guns either. But majority of the time, the 14 day waiting period reduces the "crimes of passion" issue which handguns used to have. But it doesn't prevent the people who plot and plan. Meanwhile, Cho actually obtained the weapon before he was documented with mental illness. So what you're proposing is a system that checks peoples worthiness for handguns based entirely on heresay.

Why can peopple not just be crazy anymore? Why dose it need to be games or movies or the fammily dogs fault?

The reason why games were brought up according to those sites, were from the mouth of great "School Shooting Expert" Jack Thompson.